7th july 2009 I’m having my breakfast while “enjoying” the peoples Majlis (Maldivian parliament). Well it’s always good to see some “paid to be very concerned about their nation” people discuss important issue, taking huge decisions and making headlines. Above all keeping people like me entertained. Little did I know this serious entertainment program was somewhat educational and in some point it would make me go through some papers to write something on my blog regarding that.
The first item on agenda was MP Abdurahim Abdullah Questioning Dr:Abdul Majid Abdul Baree, regarding import tax and Alcoholic beverages and poke . I’ve seen the few sessions of the parliament before and how the ministers would answer even long before they were telecasted. I thought this is a good chance to see how well this government has changed from the past government and how truthful Dr.majid is and how faithful to Allah and his people. There were Questions in my head he (Dr. majid would defend a government policy or may come with a legal answer which would be so twisted five to ten meanings would be in it and a layperson would have a hard time understanding it.
Five questions was forwarded by the Mp to the Minister,
1- The money generated by taxing or in any other way on alcoholic beverages and pork, would it be lawful in Shariah?
2- Is it lawful to build mosques and renovate mosques using the money generated by Alcohol and pork?
3- It’s known that a large amount of alcoholic beverages are smuggled to the public, who is responsible for this negligence?
4- Alcoholic beverages are permitted to be sold only in resorts and tourist hotels only for foreigners, do you believe the easy access to these products to public is cause the import duty on these products are low?
5- The revenue generated by selling these products goes directly into government accounts do you believe your salary and other government employs salaries are lawful?
(Translated from the minutes of 17 session on 7th July 09)
Answers
1- It would not be lawful (proved his legal ground on this statement in the light of Quran and sunnah)
2- He said no (and a few more details)
3- He said former government (few details)
4- No (understood by the statement made by the minister)
5- No cause the employees do lawful work and they do not have to bear others sins
Ok the minister said the truth with evidence on his statements, even though the Mp who forwarded the question was a bit rude to him. After that the usual majlis scenario came into play when MDP and DRP. I never thought I would see this but in this, while DRP MPs tried their very best to manipulate what the minister said to the people, MDP MPs tried to protect their minister.
The funniest thing was the very new “new, new to politics) red wave saleem (a.k. thunbulhi saleem) who actually don’t know what nizaamee nukuthaa is he always end up saying the wrong thing in the wrong position. Took a nizameenukuthaa to satisfy his need to say something stupid not knowing that he is actually mocking his religion not the minister cause the minister made statements with the evidence form Quran And Sunnah and Red wave saleem has no knowledge in that field. I was thinking to myself, haven’t this stupid puppet of DRP read the constitution or the general rules of the majlis.
Suddenly something struck my head, I couldn’t believe it, it’s so obvious yet the MPs are acting as if they don’t know it. So I checked the constitution just to make sure. It was there as it was in the old constitution. Clause 10 A, and B,
State Religion 10.
(a) The religion of the State of the Maldives is Islam. Islam shall be the one of the basis of all the laws of the Maldives
(b) No law contrary to any tenet of Islam shall be enacted in the Maldives
Section B clearly states that no law contrary to “any” tenet of Islam shall be enacted in the Maldives, the case of Alcoholic beverages and pork is known throughout this nation, even the kids know its unlawful and the minister for Islamic affairs answered the questions with clear proof that its unlawful in Islam. What else they need to know that this is contrary to Islam and thus making it illegal to be legalized in any means or to generate any kind of revenue. Why won’t any member take the famous “nizaamee nukutaa”
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20 comments:
Im sorry, but you are trying to say?
are you saying we should let Majlis ban pork and alcohol? First of all, the constitution itself is just plain stupid despotic, repressed and primitive.
Im no fan (nowhere near) of any political party, person, agenda, propaganda, and i think issue at hand is peoples lives. Maldivians depend on this revenue for earth's sake.
This is where religion becomes problem for me. State and religion should be separate (if it had to exist).. Boy are we headed backward!
its sad that you comment without proper information as all of the Mps and Ministers agree the revenue from that is a very little amount of the budget. we dont have to depend on unlawful things. just because i've to eat does that mean i can steal by saying "for god sake i've to eat and i dont have a job, so i steal.?????" This is a Muslim country with a constitution to be followed not someones empty mind to run wild. its a community (meaning a lot of ppl) each and everyone has rights to be protected. Islam is not JUST a religion its a complete system of life
oh and one more thing genius. while pork and alcohol may not constitute a huge revenue, tourism itself without these (especially alcohol) will get us nowhere. ya maybe a few ignorant Arabs and few piss poor Italians may come but that's it.
so stop talking nonsense and shutdown this blog before u become insane.
the constitution is wrong. a country need to be secular today to become developed. period. throw these religious nuts out. sure Islam can stay for the people who are 100% Muslim, but do separate state and religion if u want to move forward.
well said. we need to stick to our religion. for those who believe being secular would develop this country well this country will never be like that... all the greatest countries are not secular, even american constitution says "this is a country under one god" KSA is not secular but they have developed too.
@anon. yeah right tourists come to Maldives to drink and have BBQs lol.... grow up man Maldives not the best place for that. we market our beaches and underwater, peaceful natural environment. there are model tourist destinations running on 100% profit without alcohol and pork and gambling and discos... do a bit of a reading... before smashing ur keyboard trying to write something
This is interesting. Could justify this with real data please: "...there are model tourist destinations running on 100% profit without alcohol..."
The rich europeans won't come if we don't serve them their favorite foods and drinks.
and after leading a busy life in their homes dealing with work and other personal matters they seek to unwind in a beautiful holiday destination - and for this, believe it or not, alcohol is necessary for many of them. because that is what they are used to.
Is it Islamic to allow non-Muslim women who are also slaves of Allah to parade themselves semi-nude on the beaches of the Maldives whose constitution compels it to follow Islam. As far as I am aware, it is said in the songs of Ali Rameez that a woman is only allowed to reveal their faces and hands to men who aren't her relatives.
Should the so-called "Peoples Majlis" make it obligatory for tourists especially women to wear the black coat and the Burkha, when they are in the beaches of the Maldives to make it more Islamic?
Lord!
my point is really not just because of the significance of a possible but the prospect of a BAN.
you know, there are so much bans and then people talk about liberty and freedom... i mean i don't give a fuck, because im not the tourist, but try to see it from their point of view. Not all tourists are alcoholics and philipinos(oh they are crazy abt pork), but the idea of state ban on alcohol and pork (essential items in the meals of most of the part of the world)... let me ask you something, do you travel? travel to resorts and tried the beaches and water that you are selling here?
have you enquired in to the cultures of these beach lovers who spend sometimes on millions of dollars to throw a party. if i may, i would like to suggest a book for you "beach babylon" (if you can not afford to have a luxurious holiday in this highend resorts) this book will give you an insight on how money is made and what guests from highend market expects..
The country being Muslim does not change the facts and reality.
well thanx for the offer but i dont need ur help to do that. its been just fives days since i spent a day with a "very important person for this government from uk" with his family on one of the best boats universal got from dubai. believe me he'd rather enjoy with his family and do better things than drinks and the boat didn't even have it on board. and i happen to have worked in designing several resorts in Maldives for ur information. met the best bidders and investors. i dont learn it by reading a book, i've been in it and knows how it goes.
i fear the consequences then Lord!if ye are the prime examples of people really involved to that level in the industry; i mean crusing with the "very important person" and designing the resorts are major roles.
as i said, its not much on the whole "tourists are alcoholics" vibe, but the idea that something is banned by state from tourists to do. nudity is okay to ban and it is not limited to islamic laws. but there is no true relevence as to why we have to ban pork and booz! i really don't get it!
if its unislamic, then as someone else pointed out, there should be a law that prevents women from wearing bikini in this holy land, because its defenitely unislamic.( i don't need Majeed's word for that). there is no end to this insanity if we are to calculate that way. the whole world economy is based on riba, drug money, gamble money (stock market is a big gamble) so what you suggest?
ur veryy narroww minded sadly, the problem is not tourist drinking the problem is the revenue from it is haram. nudity is haram so muslims dress up in a certain way, if we get any money from tourist being nude than the same problem arises. the issue is not non muslims drinking the issue is the money we get from an unlawful business.
what an immense win.Its worth to celebrate the success after all sort of intimidation and harresment. first of all drp was not able to digest the peoples verdict. They played a game in thimarafushi and then went to the high court to rule out the peoples’ choice. After that it was all bribary,lies,propagenda..Then when it comes to 48 hours for the election a new types of lies made and were playing the tricks in majilis, in media throught the day live. when it comes to the voting people assured ghassaan and courts that their previous verdict is the final,there is no change in it. The best part was musthafa was able to win big against 2 other thimarafushi candidates whose votes were embraced to ghassaan. Musthafa knew he can swiftly win in thimarafushi and in addition to that he can win more votes to cancel out the guradho votes and in fact it was that he was looking forward.Insha allah he did it. and the people were steadfast to do that. what a big win!
MP's should pass a bill to ban tourism in the Maldives! Tourism is evil!
what??r u livin here in Male',? m askin cos i feel ur not ..if u r u wouldnt say that ..cos, its our main economy n without it, we will die of hunger n lack of other basic needs. its cos of " The EVIL" we r surviving.
to all those above: the issue is debatable. y r u all tryin to convince one another? opinions could be accepted n respected... every point is interestingly justified...the political conflict it self will reduce the no. of tourists.however, banning alcohol might decrease the no. of tourists. if we r ready to face the risks n the negative consequences..yeah ban it. if not face the consequences n learn to live with it.May God PROTECT us.
"...there are model tourist destinations running on 100% profit without alcohol..."
I'd like to see which destinations you are referring here.
I believe that Abdulla Abdul Raheem and the likes of him have sold their soul to the devil. They are being used like puppets in the Majlis. All the ridiculous petitions are submitted by them and the DRP overlords just sit back and enjoy the show
last night mister Wahyddheen said to one of my friends that is Bandos resort has been running for the last 20 years without PORK. and that alcohol makes only 10% of his resorts profit.....
last night mister Wahyddheen said to one of my friends that is Bandos resort has been running for the last 20 years without PORK. and that alcohol makes only 10% of his resorts profit.....
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